Yeah, for sure. Adding on to that. There is also a sense of the pathetic fallacy, with the bushfire reflecting the character's internal chaos. A part I also really loved was Pat's dream, where she uses her hands to stop her boat from sinking, but it's not working. What made you construct the setting to be reflective of the internal state in this way?
Yes, so bushfire is obviously this plot device, this tension driver, tension builder. Other than that, there's also this idea that I wanted it to be a little bit in the periphery. I wouldn't say that this is a climate fiction book, really. There are other books that do that so well; that is the focus. So I wanted to have it on the periphery because it feels like that's kind of how we experience it these days. We experience climate change as this thing that just keeps going on and on, and we see it on the news, and it's just over there until suddenly it's on your doorstep. And so, I kind of wanted to experience that through these young people’s viewpoints. And just this power and speed that everything can change in bushfires. You see it a little bit in the scene with Jacob when he's fishing, and the ember starts the grass on fire. That it just happens so quickly, and it's kind of the one thing in the book that causes him to act and not overthink something.
I think this idea of lives feeling like nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing until BANG, suddenly something happens, and it changes their lives forever, mirrors that process of these little embers that even look quite beautiful in the air, suddenly hit the ground and just go whoosh. That can happen in our lives. Anything can happen in our lives that just suddenly goes whoosh, and our life goes from amazing to awful, or awful to amazing. That's an interesting way of exploring this generation's approach to building a future. It takes work to build, but it can also just disappear. We're seeing on the news every single night, not just with the environment, but with everything going on. And so I think that it's scary to build a life when you know that it can just disappear. It's hard to want to work towards something or want something when the world feels much like that at the moment.
Absolutely. There's this sense of animosity and connection, as two sides of the same coin, in grief that you mentioned in the story. Why do you think this conflict exists?
I think it's because everyone experiences it at a different time, at different paces. So while somebody is luxuriating in their grief and somebody is feeling it quite acutely, there's going to be tension there. And that tension is going to lead to either aggression, apathy, frustration, or people saying things they don't really mean. So there is this kind of animalistic quality to grief because it's the ultimate representation of fight or flight. People are protective of their grief in that way, I think, because it's a way of navigating through this evolutionary brain that we have that is saying survive at all costs, stay alive at all costs. And grief reminds us that that's not easy. Everyone just experiences it differently, and that's going to lead to animosity that will lead to incredible tenderness. And I think when those two things meet each other, that's interesting for drama.
I listened to this amazing interview the other day with an amazing playwright called Jez Butterworth. He wrote a play called ‘Jerusalem’, which is amazing. His motto of writing everything is that “Everything has to mean two things. Everything has to be two things.” And grief like that.
Grief is love and pain put together more than anything.
There's a sense of preservation and destruction associated with death. For example, when Pat tries to save all these artefacts related to Taz during the fires. What do you think preservation of someone looks like after death?
It's hard, isn't it? Because you obviously want to keep everything and never throw anything away of that person. But if you do that and then keep trying to live your life, I think all those things become too heavy. I think grief sort of, sadly, is the process of shedding. And that shedding occurs at different paces. So I think that Pat is going through that process. And obviously, what is happening during that day means that she has to go through it a little bit faster than she probably would. And it's impossible, right? It's like, how do you know what makes up a life? How do you know what to keep to remind yourself of that person? Like, what is the essence of that person?
I think [Pat] kept that letter in her locker because it represents both the past and the future, maybe for Taz. It's like, I love you, thank you for everything, but I have to go. I have to go do this thing. I have to live my life. And there's probably nothing else that she has that represents the future in that way or represents the past that cleanly as well. So, that's something that she's keeping in her pocket all day, and we don't know about until the end. And there's something really lovely that, you know, spoiler alert, that's what that goes with her, this piece of paper - the most flammable thing in the world that can easily disappear in a fire.
George Kemp will be part of three events for the Sydney Writers’ Festival. On Thursday, the 21st of May, from 3-3:55 pm, he will be part of the panel event ‘Your Next Favourite Book’ alongside writers Rebecca Armitage, Tyree Barnette, Raaza Jamshed and Chloe Wilson. On Friday, the 22nd of May, from 8-9:30 pm, he will be a part of 'Queerstories' alongside Raewyn Connell, Victoria Falconer, Lee Lai, Steve MinOn and Sofi Oksanen. On Saturday, the 23rd May, from 2-2:55 pm, he will be part of the panel discussion 'Theatre Kids' alongside S. Shakthidharan, Zoe Terakes, hosted by Victoria Falconer. Hope to see you there!